{"id":6420,"date":"2026-05-10T15:19:56","date_gmt":"2026-05-10T19:19:56","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.bjland.ws\/wordpress\/?p=6420"},"modified":"2026-05-10T18:24:48","modified_gmt":"2026-05-10T22:24:48","slug":"mr-southern-california-drummer-1983","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.bjland.ws\/wordpress\/2026\/05\/10\/mr-southern-california-drummer-1983\/","title":{"rendered":"Mr. Southern California Drummer 1983"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><center><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/files.bjland.ws\/blog\/SearchForMrDrummer-83_011.jpg\" title=\"Search For Mr Drummer-83\" hspace=\"\"><\/center><\/p>\n<p>Trying to &#8220;verify&#8221; our guess about Dan Gillen (one of the actor\/models in <I>JOBSITE<\/i>)  being the same person as Shawn Killen (the print model)  &#8211; back over here: <a href=\"https:\/\/www.bjland.ws\/wordpress\/2021\/04\/10\/well-always-remember-you-as-dan\/\" target=\"_window\" title=\"\" rel=\"noopener\">we\u2019ll always remember you as DAN<\/a> I found myself even doubting the ID here &#8211; after all, there are 3 men, only one named, (and no sash!) &#8211; so which of the tree &#8211; yes, yes, we can eliminate <a href=\"https:\/\/www.bjland.ws\/wordpress\/2022\/02\/13\/val-martin\/\" target=\"_window\" title=\"\" rel=\"noopener\"> Val Martin  <\/a> on the left&#8230;. But I found the middle guy in <I> Drummer 65 <\/i> &#8211; same pic, cropped so its just him as one of the Mr Drummer 1983 contestants. But I still did some  google searches, which brought me some interesting additional info on our friend &#8211; but no, not actually proof the Dan and Shawn are the same person!  (But certainly Dan and Mark are!)<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.upi.com\/Archives\/1983\/12\/22\/Marines-shun-homosexual-toys-for-tots\/5011440917200\/\" target=\"_window\" title=\"\" rel=\"noopener\">&#8220;angry because he is an ex-Marine&#8221;<\/a> (no, quote taken out of context &#8211; click the link!) &#8211; SORRY &#8211;  anyway, article is called <I>&#8220;Marines shun homosexual toys for tots&#8221;<\/i> &#8211; the important thing is the JOB SITE bar is\/was real!  and who was the manager?? <\/p>\n<p> <a href=\"https:\/\/archive.org\/stream\/BAR_19840119\/BAR_19840119_djvu.txt\" target=\"_window\" title=\"\" rel=\"noopener\">&#8220;Mark Siefker, manager of the North Hollywood bar called Job Site,&#8221;<\/a><\/p>\n<p><center><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/files.bjland.ws\/blog\/Drummer-TheSearchForMrDrummer-83-page-023.jpg\" title=\"The Search For Mr Drummer 1983\" vspace=\"1\" hspace=\"1\" width=\"375\"><\/center> <\/p>\n<p>article also ran in the  <a href=\"https:\/\/bcrw.barnard.edu\/archive\/lesbian\/Gay_Community_News.pdf\" target=\"_window\" title=\"\" rel=\"noopener\">Gay Community News<\/a><\/p>\n<p>and check out Mark&#8217;s shirt in <I>Drummer 66<\/i>!! Who&#8217;s gonna make me one?? <\/p>\n<p><center><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/files.bjland.ws\/blog\/Drummer-066-page-043.jpg\" title=\"Drummer 66\" vspace=\"1\" hspace=\"1\" width=\"375\"><br \/>\n<img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/files.bjland.ws\/blog\/Drummer-066-page-043-jobsite.jpg\" title=\"Drummer 66\" vspace=\"1\" hspace=\"1\" width=\"375\"><br \/>\n<img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/files.bjland.ws\/blog\/JOBSITE_37.jpg\" title=\"\" vspace=\"1\" hspace=\"1\" width=\"\"><\/center> <\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Trying to &#8220;verify&#8221; our guess about Dan Gillen (one of the actor\/models in JOBSITE) being the same person as Shawn Killen (the print model) &#8211; back over here: we\u2019ll always remember you as DAN I found myself even doubting the ID here &#8211; after all, there are 3 men, only one named, (and no sash!) 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